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I'm reminded of 2 quotes from the American composer John Cage, both from around 1990. One I read in a bookstore: somebody put together one of those lazy projects where you go around asking a bunch of famous people the same question and record their answers. This one was titled *Why Are We Here?*, and Cage's answer was "No why. Just here."

Around the same time I attended a performance of his in a small space, and afterwards he walked through the crowd, and my friend, knowing his hobby was mycology, asked him "What is your favorite mushroom?" His answer was "The one I have."

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Reminds me of something I've been thinking about. Every organization has multiple levels of participation/dedicatedness. There's some True Believers, who want to support, grow, and control it; they make the core. Outside them, there's the casual believers, who vaguely support it, but won't dedicate too much effort/time; their interest is fungible, and can switch to a similar cause or org. Then there are the social believers, who are mainly interested in having a good time/networking; their views on the ostensible purpose of the group are vague. Different groups have different percentages, and people may play different roles in the various groups they're in.

What we're seeing in religion is social believers leaving churches, since there's no longer any obligation, and they can get what they want elsewhere. Casual believers move from church to church, trying to find one that gives them meaning without too much obligation. And true believers are left clinging to what's left, and either doubling down (evaporative distillation) or breaking apart.

Of course, there's also traditions, and social obligations, and the insistence of every parent that their child be as much like them as possible, and logistics, the creation of new types of community thanks to the Internet, plus other factors. Also, Americans take more of a cafeteria (or buffet) approach to things; individual self-fulfillment is our highest good.

Personally, I don't know what I am. Grew up Christian cause my parents were, tried actually believing that for a couple years, but it didn't hold up. Was an existentialist for a decade, just finding my own meaning (or not caring). Now? Maybe I'm just not able to find meaning in what I do (or don't do) in life; all I do is consume. Casting around for some kind of more rigorous philosophy that's compatible with my existentialism. Still secular in practice, but more spiritual in thought.

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