Her critiques on trans issues, whether you agree with them or not, are coherently argued, rest on consistent first principles, and do not veer into wanton cruelty for its own sake. Her positions on other issues are outside the scope of what I was discussing here. I think her reputation mostly comes from her prominence as an outspoken feminist.
Julie is great. She at least speaks out against the biggest child sex abuse scandal in history the mass distribution of pornhub to teens especially straight boys.
Why are you writing like "anti-trans" is a cohesive movement? It's always been a mix of reasonable objections based on liberal values and total bigots, same as how gay rights have always been a mix if normal gays and queer extremists. And once the more reasonable folks on either side start getting what they want (gay marriage, no sex changes for kids, etc) the loons try to grab the reins.
It's more important than ever for reasonable people to stand up for both reasonable asks and reasonable objections related to any of this. Can we please just stand in the middle and call THAT a movement for a change?
I agree with your points, but disagree with the implications. I think motivated reasoning, inconsistency, and bias in political arguments is human default mode, rather than special vices of anti-trans movement
>But for the anti-trans coalition, children, fairness, and women’s safety were never the point. It was always about the politics of ick.
I disagree. I understand where the impression might come from, but I think this has more to do with the way the composition of that group has changed over time. Earlier on, a much larger proportion of the people aware of the issues were coming to it from a feminist or personally gender nonconforming background, or were perhaps even dissident trans people themselves, whereas now that this conversation has been mainstreamed, more are… well, not that. Maybe for some it was always about the ick and it’s certainly true that some individuals have radicalized over time, but I’d guess most of the “Nutsack McGoo” foot soldier-types you’re seeing on Twitter are more recent Culture War bandwagon hop-ons.
There is no such thing as being Trans. No one is non binary. It’s semantics and ideology. Our objection to this nonsense is that it is false. Not how it sounds or whether it’s fair. It. Is. Untrue.
I - and I believe most Americans do not care what an individual's sexual choice or orientation may be - assuming they are not minors who are potentially undergoing surgery that cannot be undone as an adult. I do not believe a person who has altered their birth gender should be competing in sporting events against the 'other' gender - whatever that may be. I would have no objection to a person that has changed their birth gender from competing with like persons in their own category. That would be fair and offer all the chance to compete with like others.
Good piece! Thought how is Julie Bindel reasonable? Isn't she one of the worst radfems?
Her critiques on trans issues, whether you agree with them or not, are coherently argued, rest on consistent first principles, and do not veer into wanton cruelty for its own sake. Her positions on other issues are outside the scope of what I was discussing here. I think her reputation mostly comes from her prominence as an outspoken feminist.
Julie is great. She at least speaks out against the biggest child sex abuse scandal in history the mass distribution of pornhub to teens especially straight boys.
Why are you writing like "anti-trans" is a cohesive movement? It's always been a mix of reasonable objections based on liberal values and total bigots, same as how gay rights have always been a mix if normal gays and queer extremists. And once the more reasonable folks on either side start getting what they want (gay marriage, no sex changes for kids, etc) the loons try to grab the reins.
It's more important than ever for reasonable people to stand up for both reasonable asks and reasonable objections related to any of this. Can we please just stand in the middle and call THAT a movement for a change?
I agree with your points, but disagree with the implications. I think motivated reasoning, inconsistency, and bias in political arguments is human default mode, rather than special vices of anti-trans movement
>But for the anti-trans coalition, children, fairness, and women’s safety were never the point. It was always about the politics of ick.
I disagree. I understand where the impression might come from, but I think this has more to do with the way the composition of that group has changed over time. Earlier on, a much larger proportion of the people aware of the issues were coming to it from a feminist or personally gender nonconforming background, or were perhaps even dissident trans people themselves, whereas now that this conversation has been mainstreamed, more are… well, not that. Maybe for some it was always about the ick and it’s certainly true that some individuals have radicalized over time, but I’d guess most of the “Nutsack McGoo” foot soldier-types you’re seeing on Twitter are more recent Culture War bandwagon hop-ons.
There is no such thing as being Trans. No one is non binary. It’s semantics and ideology. Our objection to this nonsense is that it is false. Not how it sounds or whether it’s fair. It. Is. Untrue.
"Should swimmers who went through male puberty compete in women’s swimming races?" Males have an advantage eveb without male puberty.
you really showed Nutsack McGoo to be a real jerk
It’s just constantly proving that trans activism it’s just men’s rights constantly being proven.
I - and I believe most Americans do not care what an individual's sexual choice or orientation may be - assuming they are not minors who are potentially undergoing surgery that cannot be undone as an adult. I do not believe a person who has altered their birth gender should be competing in sporting events against the 'other' gender - whatever that may be. I would have no objection to a person that has changed their birth gender from competing with like persons in their own category. That would be fair and offer all the chance to compete with like others.