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The Western Pro-Palestine movement is led by the ideas of older historians, many of them Jewish and Israeli, such as Norman Finkelstein and Ilan Pape. Pape's book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" uses sources from Israeli archives to prove that the Nakba was pre planned by the Zionist militias well before 1948. Arab Israelis have different IDs from Jewish Israelis, are are intimidated at polling stations. Only recently was one of their political parties allowed to join a coalition government, and that didn't last long. https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/2024/02/the-many-civil-and-human-rights-challenges-facing-israels-palestinian-citizens?lang=en

As a US Army veteran, I see no reason we are giving Israel 2,000 lbs bombs, which they are using in situations we wouldn't use in, to cause huge collateral damage. Every day I wake up to see IDF soldiers with social media posts of them holding war loot, which would be a crime in the American military, but seems to be fine in the IDF. An IDF spokesman said to Piers Morgan that they don't know how many civilians they have killed. That makes me think that with the huge amount of ordinance they have used, that Ralph Nader's estimate of 200,000 dead in Gaza is not far off.

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This is true. I'd just like to point out that Finkelstein is not actually a historian, but a political scientist.

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That is true, I apologize, I should have said academics. I should also point out that the recent protest at the synagogue in LA was because that synagogue was selling stolen land in the West Bank, which is illegal in the US. You have to scroll down the article to find the reason for the protest, because even the "liberal" media in the US is still very pro-Israel.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/24/us/los-angeles-synagogue-palestinian-israeli-protest-violence/index.html

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Go ahead and justify the pro Hamas crowd.

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I don't need to justify a group that doesn't exist.

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Hamas' useful idiots, right here.

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Hilarious. Doesn't exist. Hilarious.

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So me the crowd that is actually pro-Hamas. I will bet you money they are just anti genocide being smeared by all the main stream media outlets as being pro-Hamas.

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